Sydney Olympic Supporters
A Sydney Olympic Football Club Blog
Wednesday 28 August 2024
SYDNEY OLYMPIC – 2024 SEASON REVIEW
For the 2nd season in a row, Sydney Olympic has ended the year in a mid-table position in the League. Finishing 9th in 2023 and now 8th in 2024.One poor season is unacceptable, but most supporters can give a benefit of the doubt to the club for an off-year and even forgive it.
The fact that the club then decided to go with “same again” for 2024 and has now suffered 2 shockingly poor seasons in a row, makes it all the more worse. It is just simply not good enough.
In the 60 combined matches of seasons 2023 and 2024, we have lost 25 of those 60 matches, that is unheard of, winning only 23 and the rest of the 12 ended in draws.
To delve deeper into who we lost to in 2024, Sydney Olympic lost to the team that ran stone motherless last, Hills United (WHO?) TWICE!
To expand on this further, the bottom 6 sides of the NSW NPL this season, who were all absolutely dreadful for most of the year by the way, all beat Sydney Olympic throughout the season.
We lost to WSW NPL, SFC NPL, CCM NPL, Hills - twice, St George - twice and lost and drew in both of our matches this season against Sutherland. To say that these clubs are kafeneia, would be an insult to kafeneia.
Additionally, in both of the past 2 seasons there has been no saving grace for the club in the Cup competitions, where we have also experienced awful Cup runs.
We have failed to progress to the latter stages of the Waratah Cup and we have not made it to the Australia Cup Round of 32 Main Draw, in either of the last 2 seasons.
In fact, we have made it to the Australia Cup Round of the 32 Main Draw, only 3 times in 11 attempts since the competition was re-introduced in 2014 and we have not made a Waratah Cup Final since 2008 and in the 16 years since that time, we have reached the Semi-Final stage of the Waratah Cup only twice.
Some will say, what about the fact we have a lot of younger players and the club is building up to something? That would be great, if this was the type of League where you could keep a core of young players together. But it is not, players are enticed, move and come and go every year, for as little as a packet of chips, for an extra $100 a week, or for some other off-field favour.
The irony of course, is that outside of a near 40 year-old forward, our best players this season have been some of our youngest players who have saved us in matches this season, on numerous occasions.
Our so called experienced players are the ones who haven’t been pulling their weight.
Is it the coach, is it the players, is it the one who signs the players, is it the board?
In my opinion, it is probably all of those, but on the player front, we need a proper Centre-Forward, we need a couple of good Central-Midfielders and probably a Goalkeeper.
One of the running gags of the supporters this season has been the Haliti Out comments.
The fact of the matter is, that any other coach in Sydney Olympic’s long history with that poor of a win-loss record, would have been shown the door a long time ago. It is a miracle he is still there.
It is not personal against Labinot Haliti, although seeing supporters constantly calling for his head, it probably does seem personal to him. We as Sydney Olympic Supporters are into seeing the club be successful, that is what interests us, that is our priority at the end of the day. The club is there to win, not to be a charity.
Losing 25 out of 60 matches in 2 full seasons is no one’s idea of success.
So the question then becomes, does the club want to make a change now, or once more will they go with same again for 2025? Go an entire off-season/pre-season with the same people in the coaching staff and in the player ranks and then 6-8 weeks into the new season, we've started horribly again, we’re out of the Title race again, we’re out of the Cup competitions again and the season is a write off, again.
Then it won’t only be Haliti Out, it will be the whole lot of you Out.
The club has embarrassed itself these last 2 seasons and if there are no changes, we will continue to be an embarrassment.
Onto the National 2nd Division now, whatever happened with that? Still no official word from anybody involved.
I noted with much amusement, the meeting held by the clubs involved in the formation of the National 2nd Division - with 1 of those clubs being our Sydney Olympic - with the FFA, to resolve the impasse over the failure of the announcement and implementation of said National 2nd Division.
One would expect some sort of decision or determination by now, about if it is going ahead or not, instead, the “announcement” we got was an announcement that they had agreed to once again meet in the future, to resolve whatever issues there are.
These statements are what piss people off. There was a meeting held where it would be decided that there would be in the future, more meetings? Farcical.
Sydney Olympic as well as the other clubs, have put up an estimated $1 Million each so far to get this thing off the ground. The legal ramifications for the FFA if this National 2nd Division doesn’t get off the ground, must also not be ignored.
It will also surely spell big trouble for the FFA, which is already a failure of an organisation to begin with and the people running it have no idea how to administer the sport.
In any event, $1 Million would have been much better spent in my opinion, on a base for the club finally, instead of its 67 year nomadic existence. A place for the club to call home, but then again, long term planning has never been the clubs strong suit.
Especially, as we are in a situation currently where we barely train out of Belmore anymore these days and we don’t play all our home games out of Belmore anymore either.
Once again the Bulldogs flex their political muscle with the council and get whatever they want, despite abandoning and attempting to abandon Belmore on numerous occasions throughout the years, remember Kelso Park in East Hills? Stardome in Liverpool? Homebush? Bass Hill?
And every time, Sydney Olympic never stood in the Bulldogs way whenever they came crawling back to Belmore. Sure the club would never be in a position or have the power, to refuse them back anyway, but the point still stands.
Everyone is also aware by now, about the $50 Million centre of excellence which will be built at Belmore Sports Ground for the Bulldogs and there’s a high chance, Sydney Olympic’s time at Belmore will be coming to an end.
My advice to the club, if they wanted to hear it, would be this: If the Bulldogs want us out of Belmore fine. But cough up $5 Million of that 50 for us to move, plus the Bulldogs and the Council should work together with the club to find us another site in the area. Then we’ll gladly leave.
Sydney Olympic as a result, have had to play numerous home games at Kogarah this year, don’t get me wrong, Kogarah is a great place to play, but surely it would be easier and better for the club, to have its junior and senior men’s and women’s teams and its office, all based in the one location.
In terms of engagement by the club, the juveniles behind the club’s social media platforms barely post or produce anything and when they do, they are pretty quick on the trigger in terms of deleting any comments critical of the club and of the performances of its employees and I’m talking about genuine criticism here directed at the club that is deserved, not moronic troll comments.
Funnily enough, while the club is quick to delete comments of supporters and members, they let those spam betting accounts go on posting virus link after virus link and allow trolls who support other clubs to write whatever they want, no dramas.
Club personnel have even blocked the Sydney Olympic Supporters twitter account and sent messages to us on facebook, making ridiculous demands.
They should worry less about what we’re doing and worry more about how they are going to turn things around.
It remains to be seen what happens over the next few months at Sydney Olympic, but at this moment in time, we don’t know where we will be based out of, where we will be playing and in which competition we will be competing.
Sounds promising.
Wednesday 22 May 2024
SYDNEY OLYMPIC – MID-SEASON REVIEW
It is that time of the year again, where we take stock of Sydney Olympic’s performances on the field so far this season. In an almost carbon copy of mid-way through last season, things are not looking all that great.
After 15 rounds last season, we were sitting in 8th, on 21 points. At the same point this time around, we are sitting in 9th, on 19 points. Two points and one position worse off than last year. Just not good enough for a club like Sydney Olympic.Plenty of excuses have been thrown around, like the club is currently focusing on and preparing for the National 2nd Division, which is apparently supposed to begin in March 2025 and the other excuse, is that the team should be cut a little slack, due to its lack of experience and it being a young squad.
I’m not sure about preparing for the National 2nd Division as an excuse, so I’ll leave that alone, but as for the latter, I do not wholly buy it.
Yes the club has quite a few younger players this season, but that shouldn’t be used as an excuse. They are not 15 year-olds, they are in their 20’s.
But if we indulge the excuse for a minute, as well as those younger players, the club also has the likes of O’Donovan, Gordon, Parkhouse, Parsons, Timotheou, Burgess, McIllhatton all within their ranks, they are sufficiently experienced and should be good enough to guide the younger players through.
If being top of the table is too much of an ask right now, surely the players and the squad we have at our disposal, are better than 9th position?
In saying that, we have played well and showed promise in almost every match so far, but only in patches or for 30 minutes, matches go for 90, we need to remember that.
I think the most disappointing thing is, we have lost and dropped points to the bottom clubs and I don’t have any official statistics to back it up, but we have to be up there, as having conceded the most goals in the last 5 minutes of games.
Is that purely a concentration problem or a fitness one, or both?
It is not all doom and gloom, there have been a couple of stand-outs on the pitch so far this season.
Michael Vakis has been our best player by a long long way, it is not even close, this guy has a big future. A shout-out to Teng Kuol as well, who has been very good and is only getting better.
Other players have had their moments at different times, but all in all, most have been below par so far this season.
The overall point being made here, is that the team is performing way below to the talent that it has in its squad. Perhaps the coach is just not up to it, two seasons in and only a few people would argue against that assertion.
You never know when it comes to the NSW NPL competition, but we look like avoiding a relegation fight this time. Conversely, it is going to take some sort of miracle, to make the Top 6 and play Finals from here.
As a result, much attention will now be turned towards the Cup competitions, as at the time of writing this, we are still alive there. We need to throw everything into going as far as possible, in both the Waratah Cup and the Australia Cup.
We have been awful for a long time in the Cup competitions, maybe 2024 will be the year we do something.
To off-field matters now, another potential issue for the club long-term, is the confirmed fact, that Canterbury-Bankstown Council has voted in favour of and rubber-stamped, the beginning of work on the “Bulldogs Centre of Excellence”, which will see work begin sometime at the end of this year.
Meaning, that the entire Belmore Sports Ground precinct, will be out of action and a construction site, for a good 18 months, or for however long it takes them to finish.
Word is that Sydney Olympic will be based back at Kogarah Oval for season 2025, but beyond that, it is all up in the air. Nothing has been confirmed as yet, for beyond 2025.
When you see some of these park outfits and small teams, being given millions in funding for their grounds, facilities and other amenities, it makes you wonder why Sydney Olympic can’t get anything from anyone.
I am assured that the current Board are doing their best to find a solution, but once again, the amateurish inept jokers, who were in control and running the club in the 1960’s, 1970’s, 1980’s, 1990’s, even into the 2000’s, when land was more plentiful and cheaper, when crowds were good, when times were good, when merchandise was flying off the shelves and we were selling players to clubs in Europe, they did nothing to ensure the club put proper roots down anywhere.
In 2024, that task has almost become impossible, as there is far less land available in the parts of Sydney where we are suited to be, plus any land is now at ridiculous price levels. Given how many apparently, successful, well connected and wealthy Greeks there are in Sydney, maybe someone will come a long one day and save the day.
But don’t hold your breath.
Here’s to a much more successful second-half to the season.
Thursday 31 August 2023
SYDNEY OLYMPIC – SEASON REVIEW
The 2023 season, started off with such promise and optimism and why not, it should be like that at the start of every year. But especially, since Sydney Olympic were the defending Minor Premiers from season 2022, it was only natural for the supporters to think that we would be right in the mix to win more silverware again this season.
How wrong we were.
As it turned out, we bombed spectacularly.
It all looked positive, as we raced out to 3 straight League victories to begin the season, beating Sutherland 3-0 at home at Belmore, then beating Manly and Sydney FC 3-1 and 3-2 respectively, away from home. We were sitting top of the table after 3 rounds.
From that exciting and promising start, we would only win 3 of our next 17 League matches, as we lost 9 of those and drew the other 5.
That run of form in the past would have seen certain people given their marching orders. How times change.
Our season was well and truly over by round 20, we managed to show some character and some improvement at the back end of the season, as in our last 10 League matches, we won 4, drew 4 and lost 2.
Our overall season record after the 30 rounds was, 10 wins, 9 draws and 11 losses, finishing the League season in 9th spot. A major disappointment.
Our attack was ranked 8th out of 16 and our defense was ranked 11th out of 16.
Having lost our entire backline and not being able to stick to the 1 goalkeeper for most of the year, hampered our season defensively, we were poor for most of the season in that department.
Up front it was slightly more positive, we actually had a good spread of goal scorers throughout the season, but we could never hold onto a lead and we would always concede at the worst times.
Despite the shocking form in the League, we could at least hold on to the fact that we were having a relatively good Cup run. Beating Blacktown 3-1, then Marconi 2-1 and South Coast Flame 3-0, before being knocked out by APIA at the Quarter-Final stage, which also meant we were knocked out of Qualifying for the Australia Cup Round of 32.
Our FFA Cup/Australia Cup performances since the competition’s inception in 2014, have been very poor.
When it comes to the NSW Waratah Cup, we have been irrelevant in that competition for some time, having not made a Final for 15 years and not won a State Cup since 1980.
Disappointing for a club, which prided itself for many decades, on having great runs in Cup competitions.
As much as the season was majorly disappointing, there were some bright spots.
A few younger players came in to the side during the season and took their opportunities in First Grade, these are the types of players the club needs to retain long term. Not bring in overhyped and overpriced a-league rejects.
The fact of the matter is, there are a few players at the club, who are simply not good enough to play for Sydney Olympic. There needs to be clean out. First priority should be to sign some capable defenders.
Regarding the National 2nd Division. Recently, Sydney Olympic as well as a few other clubs, announced their intentions to continue the process of application, to be involved in the supposed National 2nd Division, the club’s official statement was:
“We are delighted to inform our supporters and the public that our application for the National Second Tier has been officially submitted to Football Australia during the Request For Proposal phase. The next step involves Football Australia and its expert advisors conducting a thorough evaluation to determine the clubs that will be granted licenses for the National Second Tier. We eagerly await the outcome of this process as we continue our commitment to advancing football excellence.”
There is no transparency on what is being asked of clubs to commit to; to be part of this National 2nd Division and no one knows when exactly it is supposed to start.
This is not a criticism of the Board, but I wouldn’t trust Football Australia and their puppets at Football NSW to take out my weekly garbage, let alone to run a proper football competition.
Call me a cynic or a pessimist or whatever, but I personally have my reservations if this is the right move for the club or if the whole thing will even get off the ground.
I can’t imagine the corrupt fools running the sport in Australia given their history, would be that eager to see a Championship with the likes of Sydney Olympic, South Melbourne, Marconi, Melbourne Knights, Sydney United, Heidelberg, Adelaide City, APIA Leichhardt.
Furthermore, would any acceptance into this National 2nd Division mean we would have to be forced to change or do certain things – the club’s identity for instance? Would we field 2 sides, 1 in the NSW NPL and the other in this National 2nd Division? How much is the club paying for one of these participation licenses?
Many questions remain about the whole endeavour and we wait to see whether Football Australia answers any of them.
Enjoy the warmer months coming up and the off-season and keep an eye out for any further developments regarding Sydney Olympic.
Monday 5 June 2023
SYDNEY OLYMPIC – THE SEASON SO FAR
I was very tempted to write a mid-season review, given our pathetic run of results, but I thought better of it as one, it would be very emotion laden and two, I wanted to wait to see what would happen in the Cup.
Now that we’ve been knocked out of both Cup competitions, our results in the League have continued to be abysmal and that the season for us is essentially now over, I thought I would give a few thoughts on how the season has panned out and about a few other important issues.
Firstly, going from being Minor Premiers in 2022, to currently sitting in 11th place and dropping further as every week passes in 2023 is a scandal. It is, a pitiful and wholly unnecessary fall from grace, for our Sydney Olympic. We all of the sudden can’t seem to win games anymore and for anyone still in denial, we are in a relegation dog fight.
We have won 3 of our last 15 matches in the League. That is unacceptable.
We let our coach from last season go, a club legend at that, who we finished 1st with, with no explanation given as to why, we then allowed some of our best players to leave and have compounded that, with bringing in an inexperienced and unproven coach, some terrible signings and overpaid uncommitted veteran class hacks, who have failed everywhere they’ve been and now at Sydney Olympic.
This season on the field has been an absolute disaster and the way it is going, there is plenty of time left for it to get even worse still. This club can genuinely be in NSW NPL 2 in 2024.
Also, refusing to post the full time scores when we lose, in fear of having to see some negative comments and feedback is amateur hour at its finest. Then throw in the blocking and banning of supporters on social media, as well as deleting and closing comments from social media. How about we block some of those spam and scam betting link comments instead?
I am not really a big social media person either, but even I understand the importance of engagement and keeping a presence on these things. Even that is poor to non-existent. Whether anyone likes it or not, social media engagement is huge and we have close to none.
The last saving grace for the club for season 2023 was our Cup run, which is also now no more. We have not made a Waratah Cup Final now since 2008 and it is a mere 3 Australia Cup main Round of 32 draw appearances in 10 years, that’s not good enough. Especially when you consider, that since the re-inception of the National Cup, the club made it very clear how important of a priority it apparently was, for the club to be seen back on the National stage. That’s been a big fail.
Why are we also playing the majority of our home matches on Saturday Nights now? Where was the research done, that showed and said that the fans wanted to ditch Sunday Afternoons? Or is that decision purely at the behest of the Bulldogs?
This next matter is not the issue of the century, but points to the decline of and issues at the club and you would be surprised, with how many fans are fuming at the club getting rid of the long time gear steward. What advantage did that have, who did that help? Other than pissing a lot of people off, what did that move gain the club, what was the benefit from that?
Next is possibly the biggest and most important decision the club will have had to make in the last 20 years, and that is this National 2nd division business.
There is no news out there other than dribs and drabs, about how it would all work, how much it is going to cost and what are the supposed parameters that need to be met to be part of it. It is all very secretive and I personally am wary of the whole thing. Especially as I keep reading, that this National 2nd division will have no direct promotion and relegation with the a-league. What is the whole point of it then?
Additionally, I’d be forgetting about any so called fantasies about a National 2nd Division and start worrying about not dropping this club into NPL 2. Do people think that this is being melodramatic and that it’s not going to happen? Or we’re too big to be relegated? Ask Marconi about that attitude.
One issue that is flying under the radar a little bit, is this supposed “centre of excellence” that the Bulldogs have been given funding for and been given the green light to build at Belmore Sports Ground. Are we, as in Sydney Olympic, not still co-tenants? And what does this supposed “centre of excellence”, mean for Sydney Olympic? I have heard nothing about how the whole endeavour will impact the club.
The President, Damon has proven his commitment for years now and has earned and should have earned everyone’s respect by now, especially after everything he has done during his tenure, not to mention hauling the club out of severe trouble following the Papas fiasco and he is a busy man, but I would urge him to be more alert about some of the things that are going on at the club.
There are too many people at the club making decisions that know very little, that do not care about the club, who do nothing and think too highly of themselves. How many there, know anything about the club or its history, or even a general knowledge of the club?
Finally given all these issues and the calamitous decisions and the fall of the club in recent times, the club wisely or not, has decided to hold a Supporters Forum. This will not be an AGM and will be open to anyone and everyone to attend.
Any supporter and follower of the club, whether you attend regularly or haven’t been to a match in years are encouraged to attend. To ask the hard questions about any of the top issues I have already mentioned, or anything else that you feel is important.
This is a critical time in the clubs history, we need all supporters that care for this club, its past, present and future to show up and speak out, given where we are currently both on and off the field and the challenges that confront us.
The Supporters Forum will be on Tuesday June 27. The venue in typical club fashion, is unknown as yet. But when it is known, you will all know.
Thursday 25 August 2022
SYDNEY OLYMPIC – SEASON REVIEW
It has been an eventful 2022 for Sydney Olympic, both on and off the field. After all the smears and rumours of the club’s alleged imminent demise and the connected attacks by various individuals which included the so called news media (proper journalism died a long time ago), following Bill Papas’ departure from the club and everything that surrounded that story, Damon and the new board have done extremely well to right the Sydney Olympic ship and plot a course towards stability and a bright future for the club.
With that being said, I’m quite sure not many people would have pencilled in the club to claim the Minor Premiership this season, a truly Herculean effort which necessitated the defeat of the League Leaders at the time Blacktown City on the final day of the season, as well as hoping Manly didn’t thrash Rockdale too badly, an achievement every bit as dramatic as our Minor Premiership triumph of 2018.The achievement is even more remarkable, given the heavy reliance and lone wolf display of Roy O’Donovan’s 23 goals this season, emphasizing the point, the next best for the club this year, was Darcy Burgess with 5 goals.
Throw in also, that between rounds 15 and 19, we only won once in those 5 matches, plus we lost our 1st choice goalkeeper Nick Sorras, for the final 2 months of the season with injury.
Given the various near misses throughout Sydney Olympic’s history, freak events and acts of sorcery, which have seen the club miss out on numerous other honours down the years, to get one back this way, is well deserved and about time something went our way.
When it came Finals time though, the good luck, fortune, serendipity call it what you like, deserted us.
Losing the Major Semi-Final in week 2 to Manly after a 1-1 draw after extra-time, before losing 4-3 on penalties. The following week, in the Preliminary Final against Blacktown City, a similar story developed, the match finished 1-1 after extra-time, before going down on penalties again 5-4.
In both Finals, Sydney Olympic should have wrapped up both matches inside the 90 minutes, which if we had done so against Manly, it would have put us straight through to the Grand Final and there would have been no reason to even go to a Preliminary Final. But it is what it is, that’s football as they say.
In terms of the FFA Cup (renamed Australia Cup now) which also doubles up as NSW Waratah Cup ties, it was a very poor display. Sydney Olympic was eliminated in the 4th Round (the first round where NPL 1 clubs enter the Cup), a shocking loss to lowly St George City, the match finished 1-1 after extra-time, where we then proceeded to lose 4-2 on penalties.
3 penalty shoot-out losses in 1 season, that must be some sort of record?
As for the coach, club legend Ante Juric, he leaves Sydney Olympic to take up other opportunities elsewhere but will always have on his coaching resume, Minor Premiership success with the club, which he had also done as a player in the NSL in 2002/03.
Some of his moves and decisions throughout the season, drew the ire of Sydney Olympic supporters and many will point to our 2 defeats in the Finals, as justification for that displeasure.
As for who will replace Ante Juric in the dugout for Sydney Olympic in 2023, I am told that it is all but done and just waiting to be announced.
Obviously with that being said and until a new coach arrives, it is difficult to ascertain which players will be re-signed, which players will be chased to join the club and who of the current squad will be let go.
Also interestingly, from season 2023, NPL 1 will be a 16-team competition consisting of 30 home and away rounds, with first past the post being declared Champions, with the Finals Series being scrapped by Football NSW.
At this moment in time the 16 clubs will be:
Sydney Olympic
APIA Leichhardt
Marconi Stallions
Sydney United
Wollongong Wolves
Blacktown City
Manly United
Sutherland Sharks
Mt Druitt Town
Rockdale City
NWS Spirit
St George City
Northbridge Bulls
Sydney FC Youth
Western Sydney Wanderers Youth
Central Coast Mariners Youth
Personally, I dislike the youth sections of the a-league franchises being allowed to ascend to NPL 1, they do not bring anything of value to the competition, except benefiting themselves and their own interests. At most, they should be restricted to the NPL 2 competitions within every state competition in Australia, but that is a discussion for another time.
We await important announcements from the club regarding the coach and the squad and we’ll see what 2023 brings for Sydney Olympic.
Monday 20 December 2021
Sydney Olympic vs. South Melbourne – The Rivalry
In terms of Australian Football, much is made of rivalries or derbies and of the conflict and angst which may exist between certain teams. Whether it may be actual and based in a reality of animosity and historical grievances, through healthy sporting competition, or whether they be artificial and invented by various media commentators and protagonists, all for purely superficial marketing purposes.
Sydney Olympic was founded as Pan-Hellenic in 1957, as a composite team of several Greek teams already playing in Sydney at the time such as: Taxiarchis, Atlas, Astro and Pansamiakos. The majority of Pan-Hellenic’s 1st group of players and officials came from these clubs.The name Pan-Hellenic was chosen so as not to appear to represent one group of Greeks over another, whether politically or regionally. Whether you were a Leftist, Centrist, Rightist, or whether you were an Athenian, Macedonian, Cretan, Cypriot, Pontian, a Greek from Constantinople & Asia Minor, Egypt, Russia, Romania or Northern Epirus, all would be welcomed and be united under Pan-Hellenic.
South Melbourne meanwhile, was formed as South Melbourne Hellas 2 years later in 1959, after the merger of 3 clubs: South Melbourne United, a historic English-backed club which had been around in Melbourne since the 1930’s, but which was now struggling and had seen better days and 2 bigger backed Greek clubs in Melbourne: Hellenic and Yarra Park Ajax.
In the late 1950’s & early 1960’s, both clubs would look to Greece for the recruitment of new players, enticing young Greeks with dreams of jobs and better lives for them and their families, as well as an opportunity of playing football at a relatively decent level.
Australia being banned from FIFA at this point in time was also advantageous for any such advances, as clubs from Australia could approach any players that they wanted, without needing to worry about breaking any rules or paying any transfer fees. In this endeavour, South Melbourne Hellas would soon earn the ire of Pan-Hellenic officials.
All inbound International flights into Australia would always stop off in Melbourne first, before continuing on to Sydney. There are a few instances of Pan-Hellenic organising everything for a player from Greece to come to Sydney, only for South Melbourne Hellas officials to meet the plane as it landed in Melbourne and persuade the player to get off and sign and stay in Melbourne and to forget about going to Sydney to play for Pan-Hellenic. Cheeky at the very least.
Both clubs would end up taking dramatically different paths during their journeys through their respective state federations of New South Wales and Victoria.
Although both clubs started their lives in their respective state 2nd tier competitions before earning promotion, once promoted, South Melbourne Hellas went on to win multiple League and Cup honours throughout the 1960’s and 1970’s in Victoria. Where as in contrast and not for the want of trying, Pan-Hellenic experienced many near misses during the same period with its trophy cabinet remaining bare, aside from the two NSW 2nd division titles of 1958 and 1960.
The clubs would first meet in a match in Melbourne in 1964, with South Melbourne Hellas handing out a 6-1 hiding to Pan-Hellenic, a match was scheduled to take place again in 1966 in Sydney, but was ultimately cancelled. In 1974, a combined South Melbourne Hellas-Fitzroy United Alexander XI hosted Pan-Hellenic in Melbourne, to raise funds for the victims of the Turkish Invasion of Cyprus. The match itself and result will always be secondary to those tragic events, but for statistics sake, the Melbournians won 3-1.
The clubs would meet each other for the first time in an official competitive fixture in 1977, after the formation of the National Soccer League (NSL). It was a Round 1 contest at the Sydney Sports Ground, South Melbourne defeated Sydney Olympic 2-0.
Sydney Olympic’s controversial relegation from the NSL 2 years later in 1979, is another sore point between the clubs. South Melbourne, who had finished rock-bottom of the NSL in 1979, somehow managed to avoid the drop, with Sydney Olympic, who had finished 2nd last in 1979 being relegated.
Olympic’s 1-0 loss on the final day of the 1979 NSL season to St. George, saw St. George leapfrog Olympic on the ladder and for that extra bit of irony, it was a winner from a teenage Peter Katholos playing for St. George that day, which would seal Olympic’s fate. Meanwhile South lived to fight another day.
Depending on who you talk to, suggestions are that South Melbourne vigorously lobbied the Australian Soccer Federation (ASF) to have Olympic relegated instead of South and to use the excuse of there being “too many Sydney clubs in the NSL”, the ASF obliged and relegated Sydney Olympic back to the NSW 1st Division, despite finishing above South Melbourne on the ladder.
Talk to others, and they will tell you a different tale and that it was all agreed by the ASF and the NSL clubs before the start of the season, that the last placed Sydney club at the end of the 1979 NSL season, would be relegated. Nevertheless it was an incident that Sydney Olympic people would not forget.
Once again the clubs would go in different directions following this event, with South Melbourne’s status in the NSL seemingly safe, they swiftly sorted themselves out and went from strength to strength, becoming a perennial League and Cup challenger for the rest of the duration of the NSL.
For Sydney Olympic, they were back in the NSW State League in 1980, fortunately, its time back in the NSW 1st Division was short lived, as they thumped Parramatta Melita 4-0 in the NSW Grand Final, to earn promotion back to the NSL for 1981. Funny how things work out as once back in the NSL, Olympic also and relatively quickly, got their act together and became a mighty force for the rest of their NSL run.
To illustrate the point, within 3 years both clubs would be facing off against each other for the honour of becoming Champions of Australia.
South Melbourne defeated Sydney Olympic in the 1984 NSL Grand Final 4-2 (over 2 Legs) as well as defeating Sydney Olympic 4-1 in the 1990 NSL Cup Final. Sydney Olympic would gain some measure of revenge, knocking South Melbourne out of the Finals Series of 1990 and 2002 on their way to claiming the NSL Championship in both of those seasons.
In Round 17 of the 1999/2000 NSL season, Sydney Olympic fans would witness a historic 6-0 beat-down of South Melbourne at Belmore. The jokes, remarks and crowing from Olympic’s end would not even last a week, as only a few days later in the return Round 18 fixture in Melbourne, South turned the tables on Olympic with a 2-0 victory.
Both of those results were inexplicable in their own way, but that is the magic of football we are led to believe and another chapter in the history of the clubs.
The final official competitive fixture between the clubs came in Round 26, the final round of the last NSL season of 2003/2004, a 0-0 draw at Kogarah Oval.
Sydney Olympic has a winning record against almost every other major rival, except for South Melbourne and Sydney Hakoah. Olympic’s record vs. South is particularly poor and baffling, given how good Olympic’s sides were throughout the entirety of the NSL. It is very difficult to nail down exactly why or what the issue may have been but as with most unexplainable things, it will remain a mystery.
Since the end of the NSL in 2004, the clubs have met each other only twice in exhibition matches. South Melbourne invited Sydney Olympic to open their newly refurbished Lakeside Stadium in 2011, with Sydney Olympic spoiling the party picking up a 3-2 win and in 2016, where Olympic played host to South at Kogarah Oval, with Olympic winning 4-3 via a penalty shoot-out after a 0-0 draw.
It is a rivalry unlike any other you’re likely to see, especially when it comes to the so called “ethnic” founded clubs in Australia. Because according to what I have seen and witnessed most of the time throughout Australia, clubs founded by the same ethnic or national group get along in an almost brotherly manner, especially when it concerns those clubs that operate in separate cities or different states, but speak to most South Melbourne and Sydney Olympic supporters, there was nothing better than seeing the other struggle, or getting one over the other on the football pitch.
The fact is this rivalry, crosses state lines and Olympic and Hellas fans can be found all over Australia, not only in New South Wales and Victoria and even abroad.
The fire that burned for this rivalry understandably would start to peter out after 2004, it is very hard to maintain a fierce rivalry, not only after nearly 18 years of not facing each other in a competitive fixture, but the fact that there has never been any genuine belief, that the 2 clubs would ever be allowed to face each other again in a competitive fixture.
Hopefully one day the time will come, where we can officially lock horns once again, there is unfinished business.
For the Record:
Matches Played – 59
South Melbourne Wins – 31
Sydney Olympic Wins – 13
Draws – 15
For the purposes of this record, I have included all League and Cup meetings during the NSL, as well as the contests of 1964, 2011, 2016.
Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
Thursday 30 September 2021
Sydney Olympic – “Reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated”
It has been an eventful last 2 years on this planet and it has been no different for our beloved Sydney Olympic, it may have been even more dramatic for the Blue & Whites.
We have witnessed 2 disrupted and unfinished seasons in succession, robbing us of 2 complete seasons of football and chances to add to our trophy cabinet. Added on top of that, is this business with former President Bill Papas, which we will not go into here, has also dragged the clubs name through the mud, over issues which in reality do not concern Sydney Olympic all that much, or at least, the club had very little to do with.That hasn’t stopped the usual newspaper and media types, from having a field day with their countless stories and no doubt, the clubs many enemies and haters have had a brilliant time and good laugh at our expense.
The assorted riff-raff, the alleged aggrieved, those who are irrelevant and those who are beneath us, of course were going to jump on the death-riding and bay for our demise (sorry to disappoint).
Many are seriously getting off on it and good luck to them, I hope they are enjoying themselves. No surprise also that supposed “Ελληνες” have jumped on to throw the boot into the club too, the story & lesson of Εφιαλτες for Greeks should be well known by now.
That is not to say there are not some issues that need resolving, there are and they need to be dealt with. We currently do not have a President and the current restrictions, lockdowns and living conditions throughout Sydney, has made it extremely difficult to convene a General Meeting of members to discuss and sort much of this stuff out, hopefully this is able to happen very soon.
On the field, despite the cancellation of the NSW NPL season, hope remains that our Round of 32 FFA Cup tie vs. Sydney FC will go ahead, sometime in mid-October according to those in the know. But even the most excitable supporter would agree, that the steam has well and truly gone out of any anticipation, even for that match.
Also in the last few weeks, we have had confirmation of several departures from the club, Jason Madonis, Nikola Kuleski, Hagi Gligor, Yu Hasegawa, bid farewell, joining the already departed Fabian Monge and Mohamed Adam.
As for the players who have committed to the club and have re-signed for next season, they are: William Angel, Michael Glassock, Ben van Meurs, Brendan Cholakian, Darcy Burgess, Nicholas Sorras, Christopher Parsons, Daniel Dias, Adam Parkhouse, Oliver Puflett, Thomas Whiteside, Fabio Ferreira, Marley Peterson, Chan Deng, Simun Milicevic.
New signings include: Mathieu Cordier, Niko Ujdur, Sam McIllhatton, Emmanuel Peters.
As Sydney Olympic commemorates 65 years of existence in 2022, it needs its sponsors, members, supporters, players close to it more than ever before and hopefully, by the start of next season, this business with this virus will be a thing of the past, we can go and watch Sydney Olympic again and even witness the completion of a full and proper season.
One can only hope.....